Its not simply a prohibition against women having a job as a pastor- theres more to it than that. Thank you again. Mark 7:31-37 However, a teenager pointed out to me that Abraham was called . And besides all these big names, arent just claiming to over see a church, they are writing New York best sellers, etc. She was the chosen bride, not for doing the minimum, but for going beyond the expected. As a sister in Christ, I believe we should be happy for their success and teaching us the Word of God. I would recommend reading the book reviews and listening to the sermon reviews. Yes, all of this is important, NO it is not vital. Therefore, it is my recommendation that women not follow, support, or receive teaching from Priscilla Shirer or Going Beyond Ministries at this time. but any time I have been to a conference where these women spoke and I looked across an entire arena of seats, very very few of them were occupied by men. http://the-end-time.blogspot.com/2012/10/introducing-priscilla-shirer-and-jesus.html. I'll start.I'll share with you 2 Scriptures that have given me soooo much comfort and encouragement these past few days and then I'll anxiously wait for you to share what Scripture(s) you have been meditating on lately, received a ton of comfort and encouragement from and/or used to encourage someone else. One of them went up to him and told him. Well since thats the case, why dont you study and agree with what the Bible says? 4. Certainly. read more, Scripture: Mark 10:46-53 I guess I have to do some research on those folks. Thanks so much for sharing this with me, Kelly! Glad to know i am not the only dude that reads this wonderful sisters blog. She is a false teacher, not because I say so, but because when you compare her teachings and behavior to Scripture, you will find them consistently in conflict with Scripture. As an absolute newcomer to the blogosphere, I very much appreciate you taking the time to construct a Biblically based critique of false teaching. So, to "not go beyond what is written" means to focus on Jesus and His Word above all else. You shall generously give to him, and your heart shall not be grieved when you give to him, because for this thing the Lord your God will bless you in all your work and in all your undertakings. Are you into apologetics or something? but me and the wife basically just wanted to thank and encourage you sorry for the wall of text! Are they guiding and leading a flock ( a church )? As far as Priscilla, I am unsure of this. *It's always a good idea to look back over life and think about the people who have made a difference: People who helped us in a time of need. If they ever do an article on her, I will add it to my list of resources here. Did anything frighten you this morning? I think the following articles will be helpful in answering your question: You might also want to take a look at the other articles in my Rock Your Role series. God has not instructed women to preach to or instruct men. I. Again, since Scripture, not our opinions or feelings, is our authority, we have to obey that. But read her He Speaks to Me Bible study for yourself if you want to assess. It sounds like you want to be discerning and weigh things carefully. But when an author rebukes another Christian publicly, as you have Ms. Shirer, than perhaps they may be asked to clarify further? Real hope is only found in the true Christ of Scripture, and thats not what Beth and Priscilla teach. As a Christian when we face difficulty God provides the means for us to be encouraged, but we are not just to languish in that resting place. Baptist. And the Bible says that women are not to preach to or instruct men, or to hold authority over men in the gathered body of Believers, the church. Still, knowing his perspective and the fact that hes her father doesnt change the fact that what Priscilla Shirer is doing is wrong. THERE WERE It was stated, that the big name pastors are no where to be found when standing against these deceptions. You need milk, not solid food, for everyone who lives on milk is unskilled in the word of righteousness, since he is a child. Do you think the stretching feels good? That's a possibility, but a better plan is that Scripture is Holy Spirit inspired. After all, Scripture teaches that Scripture is sufficient. What does the Bible say about discerning between true and false doctrine? Do you have another links to her preaching or instructing men in the Scriptures? God made you capable and smart enough to read His word in a systematic way, understand it, and grow from it. TO IDENTIFY THREE DANGERS BELIEVERS ARE TO AVOID. in his justice and great righteousness, he does not oppress. Basic is enough for brand new believers (and again, what Beth and Priscilla teach is not basic, its false doctrine). Christians dont get to have our own personal opinions. Ann Voskamp, Beth Moore, Jen Hatmaker, Jennie Allen, From: Choose What is Right: A Study in Discernment- Lesson 1: Introduction. How is this different? Notice the emphasis around the 1:37 mark on peoples personal experiences (praying for miracles, etc.) The False Teaching of Priscilla Shirer on the Here I Stand Theology Podcast, Is Priscilla Shirer a Sound Exegete? I do not think the bible says anything about women speaking in public as long as their not pastors, and she is not talking to men she is talking to ladies. 1. Nehemiah 8:10 Verse Concepts 1 Peter 2:1 says: So put away all malice and all deceit and hypocrisy and envy and all slander. #4b- this is supposition on your part. Yes, thats correct. - Femina Sola Gratia Is she a false teacher? There are still some good, solid blogs over there (such as Kevin DeYoungs and Erik Raymonds), and they frequently put out helpful, doctrinally solid articles, but Ive chosen to use other sources instead. These are sources Im familiar with and consider doctrinally sound, but if someone digs up an article one of them wrote from ten years ago that says something biblically askew, I obviously do not endorse that.) Ive subscribed to both for several years, so I can tell you thats not the kind of writing they do (though Challies did feature and link to Aimee Byrds review of Fervent in his 12/21/15 A La Carte segment). Our Ladies Bible Study started a new season on January 5 with Priscilla Shires Armor of God. The Mailbag: Is It OK for Christian Women to Wear Bikinis? What an encouragement! SCRIPTURES YOU CAN USE: I will give them a heart to know Me, for I am the Lord; and they will be My people, and I will be their God, for they will return to Me with their whole heart. Together with her husband, Jerry, she heads up Going Beyond Ministries. It was an immediate NO after I listened to less than 1 minute of her reference about Oprah. Are they preaching from a church pulpit on a Sunday morning as a pastor would? Or will we apply extra effort and go beyond our duty? Priscilla Shirer is a wife and mom of three boys hailing from the Dallas area. Why do you think I do not? Click on link: #FerventFridays - Week 1 - Your Passion. Remember, Scripture, not our ideas and opinions are what we must follow and obey. Let's not go beyond what the Lord says through His Word. Well, technically, this article would fall under the category of discernment, but yes, I guess you could say Im into apologetics as all Christians are called to be :0). Likewise I will not listen to Beth or Priscilla despite the fact that they are both Southern Baptist {as am I} because they teach false doctrine. (These are not exhaustive lists, I just havent gotten to the next installmets yet :0) Do keep in mind that there are many fantastic male teachers out there, and its perfectly fine for women/womens groups to use materials written by men. Lastly, although you are not directly in front of Travis Arnett, Saikowoods, Taylor Dunn & Seth Dunn, all of which are men who have posted here They are Reading & commenting on your comments and blog, thus you are teaching men. It takes courage based in Jesus for you to do so, I am sure. FOCAL POINT: TO IDENTIFY THREE DANGERS BELIEVERS MUST AVOID. I can tell that just from your comment. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him. And, sometimes, basic is enough. Be a Christian Who Cares Elizabeth. They both willingly, and without reservation, preach to co-ed groups all the time. It is called cross promotion. Hummm. Its a complete waste of time. Though the Bible allowed provisions for indentured servitude, which was a humane alternative to such harsh punishments for failure to pay one's debts, such as d Instead, she is dangling in front of Christian women an emotionally appealing and unbiblical carrot of miraculous and unique personal experiences with God instead of teaching them to properly study their Bibles and rely on Scripture alone for their doctrine and practices. Weve got to act on what the Bible says, not our own opinions. Go beyond what's familiar. A. I havent done One in a Million yet) this is supposition on your part. Theres more than one link in the article providing video evidence of this. #1- Thank you so much for letting me know that link was broken. No-one is beyond compassion. Evangelical Dark Web. Also, and I am not downing what you say, as you obviously have many wonderful people reading your blog, these women are an excellent entry way in to the faith. I felt the Lord provided it at the very time I needed it. MATTHEW 14:16 3. First, just because youve never heard of someone doesnt mean hes not a credible source (likewise just because someone is well known doesnt mean he is a credible source). (Oh my goodness~ thank you for using the term hermeneutics, eisegesis and exegesis! Looking back over my copy of He Speaks to Me,and sifting through numerous videos of her teaching, its clearthat her method of teaching is mainly eisegesis. Now, reading your post, I see that your words against her work and I do not understand why believers behave the way they do against fellow believers. Hi Tiffany- Thanks for asking! People Listen In Different Wayscan You Reach All Of Them? Disclaimer: The specific links below are provided and endorsed as evidence pertaining to this article only. It does NOT say, and be baptist. She did indeed build the doctrine of theres only going to be a handful of people experiencing what weve learned on the pew on her eisegetical handling of Scripture as I explained in that section. It does NOT say, and be baptist. Paul refuted public false teaching publicly many times. Why didnt you just study your Bible instead? Before you answer No too quickly, consider that we cannot live without fear. For such persons do not serve our Lord Christ, but their own appetites, and by smooth talk and flattery they deceive the hearts of the naive. Your defense of Moore and Shirer is based only on your own experiences and opinions. Youre more than welcome to join the study if youd like. I cant but take this article with only a grain of salt. We do not build doctrine or what we believe about God on peoples subjective experiences. and before she began she said that she was there under the guidance of her pastor and that if men were present, they should understand that her teachings were meant for women. Genesis 24:15-20, Denomination: All you need to say is simply 'Yes' or 'No'; anything beyond this comes from the evil one. Because you seem to be arguing against the biblical truth youve already read and have rejected reading any of the further biblical teaching Ive referred you to. Going Beyond the Bible by Colin Morris. And if I perish, I perish. Combining elements of Eastern mysticism and New Age spirituality, this practice of emptying the mind and listening for Gods voice is found nowhere in Scripture. Again, when the Bible says not to do something, and a person does it anyway, this is sin. Now, brothers and sisters, I have applied these things to myself and Apollos for your benefit, so that you may learn from us the meaning of the saying, "Do not go beyond what is written." Then you will not be puffed up in being a follower of one of us over against the other. What Ive given you here are not my personal views. My personal views dont matter, and neither do yours. Thank you MIchelle Lesley. I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you; I will remove your heart . Priscilla Shirer is not as well known, which is probably why they havent gotten to her yet. None. Not from Scripture. You are spot on. (And if you need any help getting started, Ive got some resources that will help you under the Bible Studies tab at the top of this page.) Or and be .. We have many of these moments through out our physical lives. In addition, Beth Moore violates other Scriptures including the ones prohibiting the teaching of false doctrine and yoking ourselves together with those who do. Our faith is rock solid if we have placed it in Godthe unchanging, perfect, eternal, sovereign One. The MEGA Live Event July 23rd, 2021 Tulips & Honey. Romans 4:18 Who against hope believed in hope, that he might become the father of many nations, according to that which was spoken, So shall thy seed be. Then please feel free to ask Id be glad to help you or look it up. What is your belief regarding Israel and the plan God has for the future of Israel? Give us this day our daily bread, and forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors. Pray With Us Jan 12, 2023 Hi Friends! It will help you better understand biblical discernment and the fact that Jesus, Paul, John, Jude and others were pretty negative when it came to false teachers, too! Im not sure if youre referring to Beths inclusion of Catholicism, or both Beths and Priscillas joining with people who subscribe to Word of Faith (prosperity gospel) false doctrine. We're called to not live by our feelings but by faith ( 2 Cor. No where did she usurp authority etc. We are to base everything we think, do, and believe on Scripture. Thanks so much for your comment. (This is where the video above ends. I dont want to lead us astray ). My point to your previous reply to me is that I refer to my bible for instructions from the Holy Spirit as to my role in the body of Christ.. 2. 13 Bible Verses about God's Ways Beyond Human Understanding Most Relevant Verses Isaiah 55:8-9 "For My thoughts are not your thoughts, Nor are your ways My ways," declares the Lord. And to top that all off, shes beautiful and sharp as a tack. Where does Priscilla get the idea that God is supposed to be speaking in these ways? on Fighting for the Faith, True Woman Conference Speaker Priscilla Shirer Hears Gods Still, Small Voice at Apprising Ministries, Priscilla Shirer and Contemplative/Centering Prayer at Apprising Ministries, He Speaks to Me (April 24, 2008) promo video by Priscilla Shirer, War Rooms Priscilla Shirers Contemplative History, and Why ItMattersat Berean Research, Review of Priscilla Shirers Sermon: The Multitude by Chris Rosebrough, Priscilla Shirer- Mystic by David Sheldon, Priscilla Shirer: Out Of The Closet At The Alpha Leadership Conference 2017at Emergent Watch, Priscilla Shirerat Fighting for the Faith, Fervent Warning on Priscilla Shirerat Christian Answers for the New Age, Why I do not recommend Kendrick Brothers new movie, War Room, part 2 at The End Time, War Room: A Review by Justin Peters at Worldview Weekend, Stand Firm: A Review of War Room at Satisfaction Through Christ, Reblogged this on Seth Dunn and commented: i listen to Dr. Tony Evans and i love to hear him preach, he is a good pastor and knows the word of God, so i do not understand why all this negativity about his daughter, i agree with the bible about women being pastors, and she is not a pastor according to how much i know about her( i only know about her from war room). If a big guy writes against a LifeWay person, he might not get anymore invitations. Grace&Peace in Christ brother travis & sister tori, Thanks so much, Travis. They needed to be reminded of who the true Christ of Scripture was. I do not endorse any of these sites in so far as any of them might deviate from Scripture or conflict with my beliefs as outlined in the Welcome or Statement of Faith tabs at the top of this page. Or will we apply extra effort and go beyond our duty? Paul is quite clearthat people who preach another gospel are accursed, or damned, and that we are not to partner with them. If it were, Paul, Jude, Peter, and even Jesus would be guilty of that sin. Did you mean youre unsure whether or not she preaches to men? Parables were a common form of teaching in Judaism ( to lead us to self-examination) (https://www.osv.com/Magazines/TheCatholicAnswer/ByIssue/Article/TabId/809/ArtMID/13667/ArticleID/16800/Why-Did-Jesus-Use-Parables.aspx) (oops~ this is a Catholic reference~ how bout this one: 2And Abraham said unto his eldest servant of his house, that ruled over all that he had, Put, I pray thee, thy hand under my thigh: Mark 10:46-53, Denomination: I have applied all these things to myself and Apollos for your benefit, brothers, that you may learn by us not to go beyond what is written, that none of you may be puffed up in favor of one against another. As a womens leader at your church are you not often asked questions to clarify your personal views? #3 Priscilla teaches to listen for Gods voice. read more, Scripture: Before we move on to Priscilla, I just want to reiterate that preaching to men is not the only way Beth is unrepentantly breaking Scripture (although that is certainly enough to disqualify her as a teacher). I wish this particular writer would have more clearly defined what he means by silence. Throughout I have provided you video and audio evidence that Priscilla Shirer has done exactly that, and continues to do so unrepentantly. What Priscilla and so many others do is pretty much the opposite of a parable. Olga Souders As I mentioned in my comment, I was here with my wife, completely of my own volition, in no way did Michelle do anything unbiblical. Scripture: Philippians 3:12-16 John Huffman Introduction I don't know if you are like me, but I imagine you are. Watch videos of Shirer speaking, listen to her sermons, read her books, and compare them all with what Scripture says. Please see the links to our EXTRA Bible Study notes at the bottom of the page. Its not about doing good works to get myself into heaven, like going to church every Personal experiences can be evidence of the truth of rightly handled and understood Scripture, but not vice versa. Yes, Im afraid thats exactly whats happening. In our modern NOW, I have to preface this with this was MANY years ago. INTRODUCTION Philippians 4:13 Verse Concepts I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. Yes, Kenneth Hagin was one of the worst false teachers out there. If you are also then do we not have the same Holy Spirit to counsel and teach us? Romans 4:18. http://lisaharper.net/calendarevents/. I am more of an egalitarian, but Shirer rubs me the wrong way too. They point you to your own experiences and opinions, not to Scripture, as your authority for what you think, believe, and do. AT THE GOING BEYOND SIMULCAST, YOU CAN EXPECT: Bible teaching from best-selling author Priscilla Shirer To gain tools to study Scripture on your own To engage in worship led by Anthony Evans A powerful group prayer experience The opportunity to make an impact by partnering with a ministry With all that said, I do not say any of this out of ill intent, anger, or anything along those lines, I simply wanted to clarify, and say, that I agree with Michelles exegesis of (Matthew. As Joshua was facing the end of his life, he challenged the people to chose, the choice they would make would define them as a people. But I dont recall her suggesting that Christians meditate or pursue contemplative prayer. 2 Kings 5:1-15 GO FIGURE? Also your references in Matthew do not apply, and sadly this out of context mess gets regurgitated as much, if not more so, as Matthew 7, and the whole Do not ever judge crowd. This is not a Church. I am asking the following question to understand your doctrinal views. Their focus is on Christian living type articles, not discernment (which is certainly fine, everybody has his own genre). Good News Translation For your sake, my friends, I have applied all this to Apollos and me, using the two of us as an example, so that you may learn what the saying means, "Observe the proper rules." but I do know that I love Jesus and Im going to heaven, so Im just fine with that. My bible teaches those roles but thank you. I've done this so that you can learn what it means not to go beyond what has been written and so none of you will become arrogant by supporting one of us against the other. I think the articles in my Rock Your Role series will help you better understand Gods role for women in the church. Examples: when we Could you please provide me with a link to an article or video where she says that so I can check it out? As Christians, the Bible is our authority, so its what the Bible says that matters, and thats what I point women to. He said he met with the teachers of the studies and told them to go over and compare everything biblically and under his guidance to finish out the study and after that thereally will be no more Priscilla Shirer in our church. Going Beyond Obedience. By Wade Martin Hughes, Sr. Kyfingers@aol.com I am curious, have you confronted Priscilla Shirer of this sin. I totally disagree with you on this. If your ladies need a doctrinally sound Bible study in the future, theyre welcome to use anything under the Bible studies tab at the top of this page. I have no doubt that others have confronted her about these things. 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