Hopefully they know what they're doing! 13R. I have had 3 failed medicated IUIs, 5 egg retrievals with 3 transfers. We retrieved 8 eggs and 8 were fertilized. Have questions about navigating your Inspire support community or need assistance from one of our Inspire Moderators? Your post will be hidden and deleted by moderators. 0000000960 00000 n In patients with low egg reserve, this combination may exert too much suppression on the ovaries. Have done 3 IUI's - 2 w. clomid and 1 with Gonal - F. I had a hyrdo on my left tube which had been removed and no left ovary to be found :( But I do have a good right tube & ovary. Infertility Support Community in Partnership with RESOLVE. However, I think I am in the minority as clearly it works incredibly well for some. Thin Lining - stim protocol - suggestions? Hello, I hope everyone is doing well and hanging in there. In Focus. This treatment protocol is known as a "microdose flare." The initial injections of Lupron stimulate the pituitary gland to secrete its own natural FSH and LH (aka a flare), in addition to the FSH and LH you get from the other two injectable fertility medications. You start today right?!? Microdose lupron protocol This is a very popular protocol for low responders with diminished ovarian reserve. Anyway, I am doing the EPP this round and was curious to hear some of your experiences with it. I'm team lupron flair for life. But ever since then, despite having a lot of embryos, we were never able to repeat this success. Please whitelist our site to get all the best deals and offers from our partners. Lap 2/15. Hi ladies,My RE proposed for my IVF#5 the micro flare protocol with BCP priming. Initial was 12. [Dr. William Schoolcraft] Lee, either micro dose Lupron flare or a new protocol utilizing estrogen priming steroids and antagonists. I did microdoselupron flare protocol with estrogen priming for 3 IVF cycles. A Group Owner is a member that has initiated the creation of a group to connect with other members to share their journey through the same pregnancy & baby stages. I badly want to be a mom. Short Lupron (Microdose or Flare) Protocol for IVF. 1 10cell Grade 4, 1 8cell Grade 4. So we didnt biopsy & test then freeze. Previous studies comparing E2 priming and leuprolide flare IVF protocols report that E2 priming protocols result in longer cycles and higher total gonadotropin dose with similar oocyte yield, fertilization, and pregnancy rates; though, one report suggests a trend toward higher quality embryos in E2 priming cycles. I'm starting IVF#3 on November 14th. trailer And can someone generally explain the 'steps' to me? I don't remember my protocol. High FSH. I think it helps with the 2ww. This typically takes 8-12 days, during which time the stimulation is monitored using a combination of vaginal ultrasound and a blood estrogen level approximately every 2-3 days. No MFI at all. I'm a bit concerned about too much too quickly. GnRH antagonist protocols have several advantages over GnRH agonists protocols. Estrogen Primed Microdose Lupron Flare Protocol. Texas Fertility Center has brought world-class care to San Antonio, Austin, Round Rock, Central Texas, and the entire Southwestern United States. Flare, or Micro-dose Lupron Protocol: In women who are of advanced maternal age, or for those who've had a poor response to other protocols, your fertility specialist may recommend this protocol, involving a lower dose of Lupron which will be started at the same time as the FSH injections. Group Leaders arent expected to spend any additional time in the community, and are not held to a set schedule. [CLC] Can the use of Femara for 5 days with stimulants hurt the egg quality? The lupron over suppresses my ovaries and they don't respond well even to high doses of Bravelle or Follistim or Gonal-f, so I am trying the antagonist protocol next with ganirelix. If you feel a message or content violates these standards and would like to request its removal please submit the following information and our moderating team will respond shortly. My first two cycles yielded one lousy frozen each. Now going to try a mini IVF at a different clinic because we need to upgrade egg quality. I feel sort ofdetachedI didn't expect to feel this emotion, and I'm sure it will shift, but.who knows. :) I was a low responder my first round as well, only 1 frozen blast that didn't stick. The major difference is that, by cutting the dose of Lupron down to one sixth of the routine dose, and by giving it twice daily, the Lupron actually turns the pituitary gland on rather than off, producing major release of FSH. Some background on our situation: Usually it is started and then followed the next day by adding in FSH and LH injections. Best of luck to ya and I hope your next cycle proves 'the one'!!! ER #1: primed with aygestin, antagonist protocol (225 gonal f and 150 menopur, no omnitrope) baseline AFC (8 or 9 not sure), 5 follicles growing, 5 retrieved (estradiol 1200), all matured and fertilized, 2 day 6, 1 euploid. I didn't respondall thatwell to my Follistim-Ganirelex protocol during IVF #1 and my RE told me today he's going to try this for #2. I took BCP for 3 weeks. I've got my pompoms ready to cheer you on!!!! I did lupron stop protocol for IVF#1, but I was still oversuppressed. It's not your first rodeo here." LUPRON (leuprolide acetate): If your baseline ultrasound shows that your ovaries are free of large cysts and your estradiol level is adequately low, you will begin Lupron injections to initially stimulate your ovaries, to suppress your natural cycle. 13R. I am currently waiting on my period. The LDL protocol was initiated with late luteal lupron (0.25 mg daily). Only one embryo ever implanted (first cycle) and it resulted in a MMC. So i'm hoping in the downtown I can get my eggs up to good quality! Pressing Forward Both hCG and Lupron effectively trigger maturation, (necessary for IVF success), but Lupron is better tolerated. We retrieved 4 eggs. 11 mature. Antagonist Protocol or Short Protocol: This is the most commonly used IVF . This is the last round of treatment we'll be able to afford and I'm starting to get a lot of anxiety since stims are starting next weekend. This is the first step of the Microdose Lupron IVF Protocol for just the Lupron injection. IVF3 (ICSI/CCS): Antagonist with EPP BFN, 7/13 IVF#3 Long lupron protocol with PIO, Crinone, Prometrium, and vivelle, (plus synthroid, metformin, baby asa, metanx, PNV, Vit E, D, calcium, fish oil, CoQ10, IVIg infusions and lovenox per Dr. Kwak-kim). Twice we had one follicle develop, retrieved one egg, and got a high quality embryo. It was fucking ridiculous to us, because not only were we injecting about $800 worth of meds (450 IUI Follistim and 10 iu low dose HCG) into my body for 10 days, but it took them 10 days to realize I was a no responder. 5DT. Oestrogen primed micro dose lupron protocol - here you take oestrogen 7 days after you ovulate and stop when you get your AF. - Estrogen patch 14 days, prio, Hi all, 8 fertilized w/ IC, Im about to do a frozen embryo transfer but I have very thin uterine lining. We've been trying for 3 years. This seems really high for someone that is not a poor responded, no? In order to retrieve the eggs before they ovulate spontaneously, the patient is taken into the operating room and the eggs are removed non-surgically approximately 36 hours following hCG administration. Femara-Antagonist Protocol. 1st ultrasound 10/1: TWO beautiful heartbeats! Thanks everyone. I have an IVF consult in two weeks and although I've got my questions (mostly from the wise women on this board) I'm trying to get more information on 'protocols'. thanks! After the 6th negative pregnancy test, they did a "pregnancy loss" bloodwork panel. What felt "cookie cutter" was that despite my great day 3 tests, RE put me on microdose Lupron flare protocol with 300 units of Follistim (150 twice a day). 0000002680 00000 n Had 20 eggs retrieved. I did my first IVF at 39 got 3 embryos with one pgta normal. Did they give you a plan for your cycle yet? Hello, I will access my frozen eggs in.june hopefully. I have a quick question for the veterans. They said my FSH and AMH levels were really good too so i just think i'm a poor responder to IVF in general! Lazer T, Liu A, et al. For those of you unfamiliar, mini stim is for poor responders who don't have much luck in obtaining a large number of eggs. I have DOR (My AMH was 0.38 and 0.27 in 2016, but somehow it increased to 1.36 in Jan 2017). Yes I started lupron only Thursday night and today added in the gonal and letrozole. Kate's IF Blog. Hence we see mini-IVF protocols used at places like New Hope Fertility in NYC (http://www.newhopefertility.com/?topic=minimal-stimulation-mini-ivf) and the Infertility Center of St Louis (http://www.infertile.com/closlook/biograph.htm); and, 5/15 I'm looking for some insight on the microdose lupron protocol. They also recently found scarred tissue on my lining. Meanwhile, we're running out of solutions. What my clinic is proposing, however, is starting. Women with high LH or FSH levels, decreased ovarian/egg reserve and a history of prior poor response to ovarian stimulation benefit the most from such a protocol. Did one cycle of IVf with 450 of gonal F and then cetrotide and ovidrel. In this regimen, a patient will take BCPs for 3-4 weeks. Clomid+ 150 iu follistim+150iu menopur and GH every other day. I understand the fear. Any advice is welcome! Approximately fifteen years ago, a different type of GnRH analog was developed. Im currently doing vaginal Estrace (twice a day), vaginal viagra (four times a day), 3 estrogen patches all the time, vitamin e, baby aspirin, and I even started estrogen injections twice a wee, I'm having lining issues and wondering I'd anyone else out there has as well and what your solution/protocol was to thicken the lining. I dont want to keep trying protocols and not succeeding. Im 42, have DOR and my AMH is .90. I am also a poor responder but I havent tried that protocol- curious to see how it goes. Merchant Services. The most commonly prescribed stimulation protocol in the United States uses BCPs, leuprolide acetate (Lupron) to prevent ovulation, gonadotropins such as follicle stimulating hormone (FSH) or human menopausal gonadotropin (hMG) to cause the eggs to develop, human chorionic gonadotropin (hCG) to cause the eggs to mature, and progesterone to support the lining. I'm reading so much about low stim for DOR and over 40 works better that make me very nerveous about trying high doses. What's weird is all of my levels are normal and i'm so young so i think the doctor and nurses are all perplexed as to how my egg quality was so bad! So if it's not alright, it is not yet the end. I do believe the MIcrodose Flare P is the way to go for women older with fewer eggs. %%EOF San Antonio, TX 78258, 7629 S Staples Ste 106A IVF 1 - on BCP protocol. sometimes a bcp is used for this same purpose. Devastated! What to Expect supports Group Black and its mission to increase greater diversity in media voices and media ownership. Lupron microdose protocol. With IVF#2, I got 16 eggs, 15 of which were mature. I have my egg retrieval on Thursday & was curious if anyone had similar timing & wanted to be my buddy. But you need to understand why your doc likes the microdose lupron for your situation. I was diagnosed with high FSH (16). Instead we are doing estrogen priming followed by microdose lupron. 0000009528 00000 n Yeah I was a poor responder my last cycle and i was on a lot of lupron. Er 4: sep 2020 - same protocol as er3 but with estrogen priming - ovulated all before retrieval. Concerns about timing of Lupron Depot protocol, Insight on New FET Protocol? Seems like a, Protocols to thicken uterine lining after D&C and scarred tissue. We strive to provide you with a high quality community experience. Infertility doesn't go away after the first positive test. Anyone have good success? ?? 16dp5dt. EPP gave meFIVE- three CCS normal! Microdose lupron/micro flare lupron vs agonist-antagonist ivf protocol. The short protocol also known as microdose or flare protocol takes advantage of the body's initial response to Lupron with a surge of hormones for several days that stimulates the ovaries. ---- Siggy warning ------ Me 34 y/o DH 35 y/o IVF#1 (ICSI)-- April 2014-- MDL with BCP, 5R, 4 ICSID, 3dt with three embryos, 1 six-day freeze (2BA grade)-- BFN I just started a new one with estrogen priming, microdose, letrozole and only gonal f. No menopur. it helps prevent ovulation - 1/8 tablet or 1/4 tablet, inserted vaginally, overnight (and i use a special silicone plug, AND, /the inner plunger from a tampon applicator/, to push the plug deeper or else it slides out if you need to use the loo, during the night. 0000000016 00000 n Lupron flair I stimmed for shorter, I got 9 eggs, 5 mature, 5 fertilized, we got 3 day 5 5AA blasts and one day 6. I just had my first cycle cancelled last week due to no response and I h, A lot of women on the board have asked me what I have done between IVF#2 and IVF#3 in order to get such a drastic improvement in results (number of eggs, fertilization, and I even have frozen embryos this time - crazy). You can read up on estrogen priming (also . Then on stimming day 6, they found 18 follies. Afte, Hi all, We strive to provide you with a high quality community experience. Has anyone used this protocol and had any success? Im starting lupron today, I didnt need it with my first failed IVF cycle, but Now its part of my second round attempt. So we wasted about 2 months on this, unnecessarily. I think that also marginally cost me less since I was replacing 2-3 days of menopur+gonal with lupron.. Ymmv. My first retrieval was an antagonist protocol, and we only got one poor quality embryo (3CB). I did 9 IVF attempts in 2 years - high stim, low stim, mid-stim, estrogen-priming. October '13 Started BCP for December IVF. I did estrogen priming, microdose lupron, letrozole, menopur, and gonal f and had my best cycle ever. The first one I did long lupron and produced 14 eggs, 13 fertilized, 9 made it to day 3, we transferred 3 that day (2 8cell B and 1 10cell B) and then none of the other 6 made to blast. The patient is given twice-weekly injections of estradiol valerate (Delestrogen) for a period of 8 days whereupon COS is initiated using a relatively high dosage FSH- (Follistim, Fostimon, Puregon or Gonal F), which is continued along with daily administration of GnRH antagonist until the "hCG "trigger." Now is the perfect time to start your Baby Registry! Long Lupron protocol. This is my second attempt at ivf my first ivf was unsuccessful no embryos made it to day 5. Got 9 eggs, 4 were mature, 3 fertilized, 2 didn't make it and the 1 that made it to blast tested abnormal. I stimmed for 12 days and only ended up with two mature eggs. This educational content is not medical or diagnostic advice. Long awaited FET on 9/3. It's a Girl, EDD April 7, 2014. V-dot patches(20)=estrogen Any input / thoughts are greatly appreciated! So I know that you begin with birth control (but I, I've had one unsuccessful IVF and one that had such a poor response we turned it into an IUI instead. I really don't know anything about this protocol. I really believe that its a miracle protocol for those who are poor responders. There seems to be two schools of thought: Thanks all, I really appreciate all of you in this forum. Adding Cetrotide. Finally some (tough) answers. But after the estrogen my 3 follilces seemed to be more closely matched in size. 1Frostie. Microdose Lupron Flare Protocol. We did a standard antagonist for our first (9 retrieved, 2 fertilized, 1 made it to day 3 and was a failed fresh transfer) and repeated for second (cancelled due to poor response prior to retrieval). Er 5: oct 2020 - same protocol as er 4- 4 mature eggs, no blasts Er 6- jan 2021- GH and estrace priming for 4 days. 11 retrieved, 10 matured and fertilized and 4 blasts and 1 normal. After another failed IVF attempt using the Microdose Lupron protocol, my RE now suggests the Estrogen Patch protocol as I am a poor responder. 3 failed IUI's I did get 4 chromosomally normal embryos from 3 cycles (we did PGS on day 6 blasts). Group Leaders communicate with staff moderators and escalate potential violations for review, but they dont moderate discussions. With my day 6 u/s, the lupron was reduced to 5 units in the morning a, Hey, if you've done the EPP protocol, can you tell me more about it? Then di, I had a regular IVF cycle 1 month ago. Hi. Hi All, 2TFR'ed. They are concerned about egg quality. I just got my calendar today and I'm getting ready to start Lupron. Any success stories for low responders of Estrogen Priming cycle? 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