Italy will still have pizza, Portugal will still have pastel de nata and the UK will continue to have its pies. Being English is a privilege, the UK is a good country and one of the best in the world. We're spending 2017 living out of bags - currently in Portugal, soon heading to Morocco and Albania, the maybe Italy before SE Asia. Rain makes this country green heaven, which is ideal for keeping those beautiful rolling hills everyone loves. :). The personal story behind our decision to leave the UK (and come back after 4 years abroad). It's fab that you can learn so much because we have open borders. Brexit will force the country not to depend on London, but doesn't UK import a lot of their produce from Spain to start with? Now it's obsessed with 'poverty' (can't afford food but can fags and false nails) and banal debates about identity. Eg. Munich has virtually no chavs, as long as you don't hang outside the two main stations too late and go to the Kultfabrik (soon-to-be-demolished club complex outside of the centre). What a load of rubbish. If you are not careful, it can be a cruel existence whereby you work to live and you live to work. Honestly its all in how you phrase it, lovely. This town is by far, one of the worst places to be in the whole of Northumberland. It seems like you're a fighter and I get that because you will still fight for a better life ; even if it means moving back to the UK ! By the way, the United States is 121 on the Global Peace Index, below El Salvador. A controlled immigration Program. In the British television series Misfits, the character of Kelly Bailey is presented as a stereotypical chav. Like everywhere else, it already has pressures from an ageing longer living population. - Houses- I have seen bigger matchboxes. Great post. There are so many Brits in Spain and Portugal. But there's no garden without weeds, right? If so, hilarious coming from you. Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. I propose that you go and visit the UK for 1-2 weeks before you decide to commit and move there. I don't know anymore. It was a strange experience. Imagine not having power for your computer. There are two sides to the British culture. I'm so sorry you've felt victimised by negative attitudes, it's never acceptable to be anti 'other'. I knew from day one, that a vote for out was going to win. But there are a damnsight more British born citizens abusing the system in the same way. To be honest, I do not think that people here have become "racister" than other countries, actually on the contrary I think that the UK is still one of the most tolerant countries in the world. Which one would you pick for your next trip? Why live like that if you don't have to! I asked for proof to see what I spelt wrong and on how many occasions. Same elsewhere. It always rains. Were not all like that though! Very brave and I can't wait to see what comes next! 2. The Pro: If you like cooler days and grey skies, you will love living in the UK. I love the UK, it is my home and it is all I have known. Travelling: 150 for a return ticket halfway across England is expensive? The largest group of expats now globally are probably professional Indians, to the UK or other countries. I know the English think they are similar to Australians but how many people (pom ping-pongs, they're called) come back from Australia because they are UNWANTED? You've knackered the only horse in town. I have a Polish wife, and we've been increasingly travelling full-time. Anyway I wish you guys all the best for your future wherever it may be. Are we finally getting karma for all the horrific things weve done to other countries? You saying Italians and Greeks will never 'tick' the same as Germans, Austrians, and Dutch but do you even have a friend from Italy and Greece? The living quality and standards are just so much better in most other countries I have lived in (Ireland included) that I lost my willingness to try and live here. You write an entire article telling folk about the benefits of open borders and 'cultural enrichment', and yet you admit that your worst experiences were in the far left and immigrant-infested cities of London and Bristol, and you're happyin the conservative and very English North Yorkshire. It's amazing really. I know of Socrates, Plato, Epicurus, Cicero but what do I know of English history? No country or culture is perfect of course, but we always have to ask ourselves what we're willing to put up with and sometimes it's not worth it. I cannot tell you if Romania is better, or the UK, or any other country for that matter. Not for Muslims it isnt. I have come to realise that home is where the heart is, and it really does not matter where one lives if they are happy there. We have pies (a variety of them), we have the mighty Sunday dinner, the toad in the hole, the stew, sausages and mash, fish and chips. The term floated about beforehand, but in the 2000s it was on steroids. Great read, I stayed for a year in the UK and like reading your honest perspective on things after 10 years. I have been unable to find work in my field because they don't know what to do with my qualifications ('You need a UK qualification'), and the algorithm ber-usage in this country is insane. The food quality both in restaurants and in supermarkets is awful, but a Brit friend explained me that's because most people eat to survive not to actually enjoy the meal. I went to Scotland once and the highlands is very beautiful, but also rained a lot. Maybe we didn't find our space in the South. Excellent read! Owning a car doesn't come cheap in the UK, but luckily, the car market in the country is one of the cheapest in Europe. And thank you for contributing to British society and taxes :). The Indian gentleman who gave up his citizenship to serve the Queen and the country forgets the hatred and racism in his own land of origin, where color of skin is a passport to success. Germany thought about it. Its why we work so hard and sometimes come across as stressed and cold. Or how we enjoyed some seriously nice Italian meal. Thank you for letting us know. You wont find any other country that can joke about itself like the Brits. I wish you good luck. However I found people to be so friendly. Having lived and worked in many places, from the US to India, the liberal (not liberalism that is being forced upon us now) mindset of this land has always accepted that "different" person to practice their life with respect. Here I am, ten years later, puzzled by the same question. Wish us luck. In a few years, it will probably be legal to self-identify as as a cat or dog. That is a fantastic thing, is it not? The appalling racism, the hateful attitudes to foreigners, how difficult it is to find a (permanent, full-time) job, the unjust visa system - all of it is so difficult. People in general seem pretty chilled. At the time I just thought he was thinking ahh we don't really have capacity thats annoying because this person looks good. I understand and appreciate your opinions. we loved what we saw but the thing is that i feel Its not safe for us right know and Its messy with all this brexit thing. Since Thatcher, weve moved away from this, making education a major financial burden in a marked departure from the policies of other, more far-sighted Northern countries. Bravo to your writing skills! Hello Cory People always blame it on individuals and never on parties, politic beliefs or societies. This means an average British person has a wardrobe full of Autumn clothing and about 10 different types of wellies. UK is my dream after watching Harry Potter movies (call me silly or what), and then this trip just ruined it. I still remember talking to my husband the previous night, saying that the world is not that stupid. Thanks again! As you might have gathered thus far, the prices in the UK are rather high. London has less rain per annum than Bucharest, look it up. Ten mins of my life I'll never get back I am sorry to say. I am sad because I honestly thought a country based on colonialism and multiculturalism had lots to offer, but I found a rancid class system still very much alive. Enjoy your sovereignty, Mark. I would probably live there for a few years, but ultimately, would need a bit more sunshine. I quit my job 2 years ago and became fully location independent about 7 months ago. I really like your article. I think most people in London are quite lonely but they are so convinced London is the best city in the world that they choose to ignore it..I could not understand why in such a city use of the internet was so popular for both dating and making friends. :) I did like Lisbon, but I, for example, found it too noisy for my liking. About 12 years ago when I came to study in Manchester, Britain was a different place. Think why that is. Sometimes it's nice to come back and see it all through the eyes of a spectator. British people *know* their country is in decline. You could also argue that for an aging population, a young, able bodied workforce coming here wanting to work is exactly what the country needs. I might be back to UK to visit Stratford but not sure when, and I hope the situation will get much better during my return trip. Mad! Other countries set a higher standard in who they let in and they *make it clear what is expected of them*. Anyone who moans about food options in the modern UK must be very, very insular and live in a little bubble or is a spoiled idiot with myopia. I got approached by a Greek man who had a PHD and wanted to try and find ways to use it in a commercial context and he wanted to work for us for free to get some experience. P.S. In the last three years a new filthy vocabulary of social class has emerged in Britain. However, every time I turn on the news it makes me question whether it is the right choice. One thing I am sure of though from all the faults of living in italy we are so much happier as a family. It is the immigrants who maintain Britain afloat, and it is because of the immigrants that we have good doctors, dedicated teachers and hard-working baristas in the local cafes. Thank you very much for being brave and courageous, and for writing this article. We should all be free to live a happy life everywhere. But in reality, I stopped feeling safe in the UK a few months ago, when people started assaulting immigrants in the street. Dream! [4] In Newfoundland, "skeet" is used in a similar way,[5] while in Australia, "eshay" or "adlay" is used. We actually left two days before the Brexit vote. It is dangerous to assume that all British people are racists. It's beautiful that you can live in Germany without a visa. Thank you Maartje! I've been trying to move to the UK for years but as an "immigrant" from the US, the Tier2 visa rules have prevented me from doing so. My husband has been fortunate enough to find work in a multi-cultural company (French, Romanians, English and Swiss, all working harmoniously with one-another). A very powerful piece and interesting from my perspective as a Canadian who left Canada to travel for many of the same reasons. I do hope you visit the UK. I've held 3 stable jobs since I was 16, and in each on I was the minority. It's proven that immigration is a totally positive thing for a country, and historically immigrants have contributed FAR more than they have received. I love how you touched on just how expensive it is to travel in the UK too, especially by train (not that they ever run on schedule anyways!). As you might have gathered, my husband is Hungarian. [10] In the 2010 book Stab Proof Scarecrows by Lance Manley, it was surmised that "chav" was an abbreviation for "council housed and violent". I am so glad I left that world. . London is the 6th Most Michelin Starred city in the world, higher than Hong Kong or Barcelona. It's not as simple though that everyone voting leave agrees with Farage and Boris. You'll find that these places are a run down, uncared for mess many thanks to previous govenments who actually ignore the North and instead focus only on London. Culture, craft, innovative ideas are bought from elsewhere in the world because the UK can afford it, but cannot create it itself. Hes the Mrs Bucket candidate; and yet his shiny top hat and molecule-thin veneer of civilisation somehow hypnotises his target demographic into forgetting his divisive and dangerous extremism. In the 25 yrs since we started University, my cousin who came from tropical island, studied here - and shocked the family by returning home, visited recently (on business). The UK has more international communities than any other country in the world. I wish I could say something positive like I think things will change, or at least it's just a minority, but unfortunately I don't think those things are true. [1] "Chavette" is a related term referring to female chavs, and the adjectives "chavvy", "chavvish", and "chavtastic" are used to describe things associated with chavs, such as fashion, slang, etc. Foreigners cant even buy a house in New Zealand anymore. I am super excited to learn that you liked Romania. It is nice to hear some positive stories. I still remember talking to my husband the previous night, saying that the world is not that stupid. Plus with the stupid spellings now some parents choose, who knows how they're spelled!!! It's just that we wanted to experience something a little different for a while. We also didn't think it would happen but were pleased that we had left after the results were announced! It was about all the things I don't understand about England. Or? Good luck x. Well, maths and sciences requires thinking and bright individuals. What about delicious sherry trifle, a British invention? [20], In a February 2005 article in The Times, Julie Burchill argued that use of the word is a form of "social racism", and that such "sneering" reveals more about the shortcomings of the "chav-haters" than those of their supposed victims. Because I was a Law student whereby language skills were paramount. The core of the British kitchen is the oven, as you might already know from the Great British Bake Off. Now living in Egypt is not without its problems but look at these prices: Cinema: 2, Restaurant: 5, Cultural Events: many are free, Internal travel: very cheap along with accommodation, gas and electricity being much cheaper than the UK or the EU and dont forget the Red Sea for a holiday. All the talent and creativity has been sucked dry out of this placeits so dead and will continue to be dead and fall behind so many other wonderful countries in the world. Hi Miranda, thank you for your comment. For a while, it didn't bother me, until one day, I got rejected after a two-week job trial. We've also found that while Mark (who has a british passport) breezes through various application processes for banks etc, I (with a Latvian passport) struggle much, much harder to get approved. I know it's unusual for you to grasp that. Hi Lena, it took a lot of courage to say all these things. Hi, I can see what you mean in your article. We should celebrate that and so should other countries. Lol. We need to stand together and show the world that love prevails. A Labour Government faces the same problems - and honestly will be no different as there is no money to splurge like the Noughties! Britain's infrastructure cannot cope with the population. You see, all these were just normal things in the UK. The enchanting cottage, you're right, is not cosy at all when humidity and rain are constant. I hope you find true peace and happiness. I gave it to my manager and he just read his name at the top. We're in North Yorkshire and we absolutely love it here. Or? I always strive to do better. Their main issue are Eastern Europeans and Balkan people, as well as non-white migrants and Muslim people. In saying all the above and I agree with what I've written my family and I chose to.leave the uk to give our children a better life. They still believe in the purity of Japanese blood and parents discourage mixed marriage. I prefer many countries abroad - and hope to relocate - good luck with your travels . We are much happier out of the uk as it is now over populated in general. Oooh believe me! Ive lived here all my life, 40 years. I find it sad to read through these comments and hear my country described as a hellhole and I and my fellow countrymen as horrible racists. One of the biggest differens that i saw are the streets, in England they are very clean, and in Chile you can finde a lot of garbage. I dont think British food even begins to compare, and I actually like some British food. Perhaps, instead of crying into your beer over a past that only ever existed between the pages of the Daily Mail, you might instead seek to learn a little something about current technology. My husband and I made the big move from Australia to the US in 2015. But now that has been reversed through the mainstream political narrative embracing populist views. I know many foreigners who are happy in the UK and live well. And we've come to the conclusion, that there's no place like home.. I'm moving away from my home in the US next year and have some similar reasons why. Plus, all the great writers and scientists coming from here made me think the educational system would be wonderful. 1860. I used to think most of my life that happiness was found in places and thought that running to a foreign country would help me deal with my feelings of unfulfillment but it never did. How can I decide??? As for the food, we have a huge mashup of all world culture based cuisine, as well as excellent cuisine of our own. Macron says the French would vote to leave the EU if they had the chance and Italy is more anti-EU than the UK. So, since citizens of the world, are citizens of nowhere my advice is: 1) Keep your UK investments and properties and join the rentiers class But as I say it never really went away it was always there. Going south helps, but the salaries are way too low to afford it too often. My thoughts on growing up here and where we are now I've seen the UK become more and more racist since the 00's I guess. UK for years has failed to create policies to protect its border, its benefits and health system to be abused by anyone and everyone. My Portuguese friend said the Portuguese just want to live in the beach, but the Brits try to be something more than they are. Healthcare and education were much worse under the left. -Cuisine- LOL. You've explained very honestly what I've been feeling for some time now - I'm now in a position where I feel that the values of my birthplace no longer align with my own. You know why? Defined as "a young person characterised by brash and loutish behaviour, usually with connotations of a low social status", 'chavs' have seemingly made their return to popular culture, this time on TikTok. 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