Marcus' letter to his wife is the complete opposite of Ibsen's play. He coats her with sweet words and places a cherry on top of each sentence with a reference to a bird or squirrel. Helmer is not the best man in the world but he is certainly more cleaver than this fellow, Marcus. We also quickly learn that he does not believe that his wife is sick. Just by reading his letter to her, it seems that Marcus holds all the power in the household. It is, perhaps, that she fears a narcissistic path and she leaves in attempt to stray from this path. I think the first difference is that Marcus is a lot more demanding and more firm in what he wants. His tone in the letter is condescending and self-righteous. Their worlds had gotten bigger and their lives remained small.What do think about an industrial revolution hysteria? I can honestly say my consciousness is affected by how much money is in the bank. And, as Tufts suggests, this story in todays timeframe does not sound so astounding as it was in the late 1800s. Tuft uses the comparison to delve into Nora's true character and complexity which is opposite to the assumption that the play is an agent for female strength and independence. Although she does act like everything is perfect and splendid in her life and with her at times, I don't believe a narcissistic person would ever consider suicide, they're too precious to themselves. Webwife does not follow my wishes but believes herself to be entitled to act on her own, even if this is totally against my orders. This shows that he believes women will not willingly choose to live on their own because they may be incapable, dependent, or other things. Tufts wants the readers to realize that Nora is not illustrating any form of solidarity towards others. I truly dont believe it was for the obvious rotting effect, but the way her rotten teeth would be perceived by the public. So without knowing further details about the case I reserve my further judgment. She constantly needed attention from everyone around her. He is very verbally abusive. % Maybe Nora did not want to have children or did not have a bond with them. For most people it worked and they believed to be happy with it. He expresses his dissatisfaction of her actions by telling her outright she "sinned greatly." It is her job to look and sound sweet and make nice home for her husband to come home to. Aside from a brief mention of their family (their children and their extended families), there isn't a personal tone in the words written. Van also helps give Marcus many of the great ideas that make his rebellion succesful. Men might understand, but woman are people, not property. 15. Between 10 and 18 million people eventually died. I mean if she is not happy with her husband - this is one thing and I can understand that. (BedFord 1765) However, as much as he blames his wife for the destruction of their family reputation, he does take some responsibility; it should be noted that the word "some" might be an overstatement. Whether there was like real love between them they did in fact care about each other one or the other.Some similarities I saw which is the obvious one is the wives leave their husband and I think the reasons they had were similar as well. While Marcus makes it apparnet that the wife has obligations to their husbands, that they need to do what the husband says.- I dont think either of them takes responsibility for the seperation, in fact Trovold makes accusations of Nora being sick, like mentally ill. It brings up an interesting question Can we ever be free from our socioeconomic class on this earth?When using in any of the techniques they all bring you back to one word: Freedom. We see that at the end of the play, Helmer, while throwing some passive insults in Nora's direction, is a little more understanding that most would expect him to be, considering the circumstances. Carol Tuft tries to convey that there is more than on interpretation of Nora than the feminist type originally viewed by the Norwegian Women's League. This is again no way or form standing up for her rights but giving into her selfish desires and trying to "fix" her life based on releasing herself from her environment. Torvald constantly checked to ensure Nora wasnt sneaking off to eat macaroons. Helmers lenient way in controlling his wife was way less controlling where as Marcus was in complete under his rules.A women living in the early nineteen hundreds with Noras traits being rebellious and lacks content in what she has is definitely a narcissistic. In fact, during the whole beginning of the letter, he states, "you, alone, carry the guilt of all the misfortune." Though at the first glance it is hidden from view once you read it again you will see it more clearly. He is very controlling. When she decided to leave her life behind and make a new one for herself, it was on the hope of fulfilling the duties to herself, consequently, enforcing a lack of empathy towards her family. After reading this passage I believe that Marcus is a rather demeaning character, with an utterly drastic tone of bitterness. She walks out on her husband and children to take care of herself and her own needs. When does looking-out-for-self turn into narcissistic behavior? She flirted shamefully with Dr. Rank, with no intention of ever showing him any real interest. The Second time his wife warned him, he laughed at her finding her warning to be a funny joke. answer choices She wishes to state her approval of the Articles of Confederation. With all that he is really not taking any blame at all and just putting it all on her. I believe that Tufts purpose of saying that Nora is narcissistic is because at first when people read/see the play they make Nora out to be a victim but it's not until you really think it through and see all the angels that you see how selfish she really is, and not the victim people first see. She even used her supposedly saving Torvolds life to draw attention to herself and how good of a wife she was (even though she wasnt) She was a liar and manipulator. I just find it ironic that perhaps the one person who has lost of most (her family) and most dependant (servant) appears to be the most content. >>>I think, he seems to not care if his wife will still return after reading the letter even he He demands to know her whereabouts and the exact time and date of her return to him. Mrs. Linde depends on Torvald to provide her with a job and she is able to get the job because she a widow. Furthermore if such decision making power she had then whey has she ignored Dr. Ranks condition? He was very cocky as he was the only important person in the relationship and that he really did not care if they were together or not. WebThe letter, read alone on stage by Lady Macbeth, reiterates the Witches' prophecy of Act I. They wanted a life in which was more then just duty to your husband and family. In 1933 she received some 300,000 letters and cards. The husband is making statement such as if she comes back it will be the "correct" thing to do. Later, he subtly admits that he heightened the problem. Again, this is not HER happiness. Torvald even goes so far as to beg his wife suggestions on how he could change, how he could make things right. Nora had responsibilitiesshe made a vow to her husband and she had 3 children. Nora needed to find herself as many people do. But the kids - they certainly will suffer from this entire ordeal. But I do have one thing to disagree with, and that's to think that all of Nora's decisions that she had made in the end were a result of capitalism, I think its a little more personal that, I hate the fact that the author of the Marxist article tried to say that "Noras of the world by manipulating their economic status and, by extension, their conscious estimation of themselves and their place in society." WebThe Project Gutenberg EBook of The Principles of Psychology, Volume 1 (of 2), by William James This eBook is for the use of anyone anywhere in the United States and most other par if she was not narcissistic then she would not have needed to walk out. However, it seems strange that at the time of Torvald's promotion she finally left. She has free will. He asked her how she could possibly not love him anymore. It seems that Marcus blames everything that has gone wrong on his wife, where Torvald takes the blame for him and Noras separation a bit more. Thats such a gross over simplification of the problems Nora was going through, it wasn't just capitalism that made her do these things, it completely turns these personal decision and thoughts into a reason for a socialized economy. It doesnt matter what we think about it today, but back then a women was not able to get a job if she abandoned her family so I am positive that it was the wife that initiated the process of returning to her husband and not vice versa. The primary points of the letters from Abigail Adams to her husband John reveal that, in all likelihood, the country elected the wrong half of this letter Noras case she acted like it is her way or the highway. He'll still treat her like a child and order her around. Due to all the things going on economically and the accusations against Nora that she would come to a decision on her own to stop it. If they really loved their wives, they would not treat them in poor ways. Describe the tone of Marcuss letter to his wife. When she leaves her family at the end of the play, her excuse may be that she finally wants to be in control of her own life and make her own decisions which on that side who can blame her? Because he didn't take blame for her doesn't give her the right to leave because she is not standing up for her self she is being childish towards herself. She leaves her children and her husband behind because she wanted to be free. WebPublishers summary: Confraternities were the most common form of organized religious life in medieval and early modern Europe. He thought how a good climber like him could fall. In fact, he doesn't even understand why she would leave, and thinks it isn't sensible. On the other hand, Witham and Lutterbie then go to say that Nora "equates personal freedom with the acquisition of wealth." ^O2H-dYW!mcg_@m {GS;KWHxn;'x!\^H5)Z8Be ,?=&4^8 .U-pUI/. While portraying the image of a standard housewife of the time period, it seems that she is only concerned with the portrayal of this role. Tufts purpose for arguing that Nora was seen as Narcissistic because she waited out of the life she currently was living and wanted to become her own person. Tuft attempts to visualize Nora as something different than what many before her claimed that she seems to be. In Marcus letter to his wife, he doesnt accept any responsibility for their separation. He even tries to persuade Nora to not leave him. In the beginning he says that she is the one that has sinned but so has he, he blames himself as well but the next thing he says completely contradicts that. Nora basically has no human freedom as she has to pick from two options be out-casted by everyone she knows and be tormented or come back to him. WebA woman in upper- class society of the time had few choices in an unhappy marriage. Or perhaps she is a narcissist and is blind to it. On the otherhand, Nora was much more in control than Torvald. What significant similarities and difference you He simply says she can return if she wants, but only if she makes some changes. Narcissistic -- means being in love with yourself and Tufts get this quite right. Torvald didnt know what hit him when his wife decided to leave. Tufts purpose in Nora being a narcissistic to analyze the relationship of Nora and her husband which revolves around the story. Two very different men. If Nora is viewed as someone as narcissistic, then I can only assume that anyone who ever chases after their dreams or goes after for something they believe in, needs to be considered narcissistic as well. For his part, Marcus does not accept responsibility for their separation. The letter to the 19th century wife is what many would believe the letter to Nora would look like. Unlike him, at least Helmer was willing to treat Nora with more respect. Marcus is much more in control than Torvald was. However, all this has to be done without making him look weak, vulnerable and helpless without her. He is verbally abusing her to the point until she is broken down and reduced to nothing. Helmer is willing now to do anything his wife wants as long as she stays with family. What if she is actually the product of an egocentric society? I understand why some are saying that Nora is seen as narcissistic, however, I do not believe so. You observe the emotions of a man who loved a woman that didn't love him, and you see a possible workaholic father typical of his era. WebBrowning was inspired to mould the character of the Duke on the historical personality of Alfonso II, fifth Duke of Ferrara of the Italian Renaissance whose first wife Lucrezia di Cosimo de Medici died on suspicious grounds. The rest of the letter identifies rules and obligation the wife must follow, starting with laundry and ending with NEVER making visit in HER HUSBANDS ABSENCE. In the Victorian era, men were the ones with the jobs and it was the woman's job to find a man with a good reputation and a good salary so they can continue their family legacy and live comfortably. What might have been shocking is now seen somewhat antiquated. When Nora wants to leave he tells her she is crazy and is pleaing with her to stay. By seeing Nora as in this light, she seems less of a heroine feminist but as a flawed person. At the same time, this is not a letter I could see Torvald writing, especially not after the conclusion of the play, when Nora has completely turned his life around. In a Psychoanalytic Reading of Nora, Tufts argues that Nora is more of a narcissist individual rather than a victim of her husband's oppression. When his wife warned him the first time, father was really astonished. Tuft proposes a shift away from a more feminist perspective to a more egocentric and humanist perspective, since he argues that current readers do not quite realize the severity of the situation when a wife chooses to deny her duties to her husband and children in favor of her duties to herself. And come to think about it even our days I am not sure how I would have understand a women who abandoned her 6 (!!!) The tone of Marcuss letter to his wife is very strict and bitter. He said "a women(or man) walking out on her husband(or wife) and children in order to fulfill her duties is is no longer the shock for us today that it was for the audiences at the nineteenth century." The tone of his voice was demanding and mean. Tufts purpose in arguing that Nora be seen as narcissistic can be explained by the way the story ended. Vonnegut tells us that everyone is "finally equal" in 2081. 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